thetwistedrope:

Well, there are several things that would probably need to be teased out here. THe first being the nature of your relationship to the astral self that you ID with. Are you two the same being? Are you two beings shoved into the same form, like a multiple? Are you both from the same soul line, but a few steps removed?

Figuring out if you two are the same person, or if you’re two beings shoved into the same form may help you to feel less uneasy about whatever actions your astral self is taking. Because in that instance, you two would not be the same anyways, and so you don’t really have any control over what they do.

However, if you’re both of the same soul line, or are the same person, then that becomes a little harder to come to terms with. And how you come to terms with what your other self does is going to vary from mine, because we’ll probably both have different ideas about things.

It’s not uncommon for astral travelers to sometimes be stuck watching themselves go do stuff without their consent. I would say that this is particularly true for anyone who travels while asleep. Probably because your conscious mind is taking a back seat to whatever sort of mindset your astral form has, and that the two might not line up. I’ve experienced the inability to control things while awake, but it happens way more often when I’m asleep.

As it turns out, I’m in the process of writing a post about how ethics and mindsets can change after having been in the astral after a while. I think in some respects, its understandable that you and this other part of yourself will have different ideas on how to handle things. And that by humans standards, some of the stuff astral you does will probably not be widely considered “okay”.

For myself, I’ve kind of come down to telling myself a few key things when I find that I’m doing things that I find questionable over there.

The first is to remind myself that if I’m not in control, I’m not in control. And that there isn’t much I can do about that. There are going to be times when I have no say and no methods of having a say in a situation. And it simply is what it is. I can try and do damage control afterwards, and I may be left to deal with the consequences of the actions, but I also remind myself that that’s all I’m really doing–taking responsibility for a form that is tied to myself, but that I have little to no control over.

Further, in these moments, if you’re tied into someone else’s subconscious, remember that you’re basically just feeling what they’re feeling. If you’re disconcerted about enjoying something you wouldn’t typically enjoy, it’s important to remember that being tied into another portion of yourself means your human brain is being put into neutral. You can’t really control that, and there is nothing wrong with you. I can tell you that there are multiple people I’ve met who have experienced this. It’s weird and frustrating, but it’s also normal. The reaction you get once you’ve broken the connection–those emotions are you. And those are what you’ll probably want to focus on.

Second, I remind myself that the astral’s rules are not earth’s rules. Certain places do things differently. Certain situations require certain actions in certain circumstances, and they don’t necessarily line up with earthen or humanity’s rules. That being said, I don’t run around kicking puppies for the lols, but I have engaged in questionable acts, and I don’t deny that I have. I’ve come to a certain amount of peace about that, but I think it’s going to depend on what level of fuckery your astral self is engaging in before you can work on that peace. If it’s super bad, then you may need to figure out if you can cleave from yourself, or find other means to stop whatever is upsetting you. But at the same time, try to keep in mind that you’re in a different place with different rules, and that that will effect how yout other self behaves.

As for whether it makes you a bad person, I’m going to lean towards probably not, but I also tend to shy away from labeling people as good or bad. We’re complex and we do both good and bad things all the time. You’re a complex entity joining up with another complex entity from a completely different social structure (I’m assuming) living in a plane that may not be much like here. So it makes sense that there will possibly be clashing of personalities, ideas, and ethics. When you’re not in control, you’re not in control, and the actions that someone else (essentially, even if you’re of the same soul line, if you spend enough time apart, you are essentially two separate people that are exact in certain ways) takes are not necessarily your fault. Esp if there is nothing you can do about it. Ofc, you can try to convince this part of you to change, or to cleave off of them, so that you no longer have to experience what they do. BUt as with all beings that have their own free will, there is only so much you can do to change people. Horses and water and all of that.

So hopefully some of my rambling has made some sense or has been helpful or something >.>;;;;;

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